the thread for step 11 is down the list now because it's taken me a while to get back to reply ... so starting this new thread.

I had said that I'm grateful that the god of my understanding will lead me to the circumstances where I may be (not cured necessarily but) healed over time -- or actually healed in an instant.

ack replied, "I am curious about the difference between curing and healing, it seems like there would be something really important in that...."

When I was in first grade, I had chickenpox.  My understanding is that it's not possible for me to ever get chickenpox again.  To me, that's being "cured."

When I was in first grade, I also had to get a tetanus shot (after stepping on a rusty nail or something).  Tetanus shots last several years but I've had to get more of them at different times in my life.  In my mind, tetanus shots are a pretty good "cure," but I have to get "cured" again periodically. :)

When I was in first grade, I also managed to get quite a few cuts and scrapes, all of which healed with no scars.  In my mind, I've been "cured" of those cuts and scrapes.

Some other things happened to me at home when I was in first grade.  I may never see in this lifetime complete healing from those things that happened.  I've certainly worked and had a lot of help in working to heal those things.  In one sense, the things that happened to me have been "cured" simply by my becoming an adult who is self-supporting financially so that I do not have to stay in a bad situation as I did have to stay when I was a child.

For me, the line between being "cured" and being "healed" is sometimes clear and sometimes very unclear.  So I mostly think in terms of healing as what I desire, because it's just too confusing to me to figure out whether I'm "cured" of something or not. :)

There are plenty of habits and preferences I've picked up in living my life that are not the best way for me to act and not good for others around me.  I'm grateful that in working my Al-Anon program (and before that in my spiritual life as well), I have a means to receive forgiveness and healing and a fresh start over and over again, in each new moment, if I choose to be willing to receive those gifts.

Perhaps others can offer their thoughts too, laurel.  I hope this helps you see a little of what I was thinking when I wrote my earlier post.

Grateful member of Al-Anon,
Sunny





-- Edited by Sunny2007 at 04:34, 2007-05-08

hi Sunny I guess you mean that people are not really cured that they came to terms with something , well maybe that's not what you meant but it was how I read it , yeah I have met people who believe they can't be healed as well , people vary on that one it seems , depends what they are recovering from perhaps ,

llol Vickyr x

"There are plenty of habits and preferences I've picked up in living my life that are not the best way for me to act and not good for others around me.  I'm grateful that in working my Al-Anon program (and before that in my spiritual life as well), I have a means to receive forgiveness and healing and a fresh start over and over again, in each new moment, if I choose to be willing to receive those gifts."

That is the key paragraph in the lead post. It shows that the poster is focussed on self improvement.  That is how I look at it too.  Thanks for sharing and putting this idea into words so well.  "Progress and not perfection"

love in recovery,

amanda

Hi, Being Wounded by another person, or for me it was a person that is also a fellow Christian. It happened last night and it won't destroy my sobriety or my Faith. Knowing that the person is angry with me still over issues from years back when this person counseled my Son and me. I wrote a letter to this person and didn't agree with the diagnosis , it may have been somewhat harsh, but I felt it was warranted. I made a face to face ammends. This person is high on the food chain in the Church so they can do no wrong in the Church. But me and my personality jumps right into there Ministry that happens to be a Recovery Program ( Christ Based) It seems that I am very out spoken and very resentful still. This person has hit me with comments such as "So you are going to this Church Now". or Is your Son in Jail yet? or Your ex-husband would help his Son more if he wasn't so concerned about being on Television and spent more time with him, or other rude hurtful statements. I have been critised ever since I started to go into the rooms of the Recovery they started in Church. The leaders working under them have comments towards the group but I feel it is directed at me. For moving when I shouldn't move, for talking more than one time during the hour of sharing, and the final blow I was kicked out of an abuse class during a breakdown in tears over a situation that happened that evening with a family member I was sharing about. I am at a dilima as to what to do at this point. I am powerless to make people Love me, like me or accept me. I am hesitant about bringing the matter to the Pastor because he and this person are buddies. It stinks and makes me want to leave and go someplace else to Worship God. In my stubbornness I want to fight it out and see what happens, but I am getting more wounded by staying. My husbands without work and we are basically the low man and woman on the totam pole, or so this person has also said. " I am going to pray now that I have vented and shared what is happening. I will pray for this person, his family and his relatives blessings on them all. Even when it very difficult to pray for someone you don't like that has really hurt you deeply. I will do what God wants me to do. PRAY for THEM. Thanks, Blessed