Hi there, I wonder if anybody could please help by sharing their thoughts on this...
Basically, I came into the fellowship about 9 months ago and felt that after some initial reluctance I 'admitted I was powerless and that my life had become unmanageable.'
I picked up again a few weeks ago and have been back 15 days... and I went to a really great meeting last night that focused on this step 1. I have started to wonder whether I really did accept I am powerless which perhaps ultimately led me to picking up again...
I think looking back, I could hold my hands up and say 'yes, I am powerless' but in the back of my mind I was still thinking I could sort it out!? So is that really admitting I am powerless? Somebody mentioned admitting we were powerless means admitting defeat and I have to say, I just absolutely hate that word (DEFEAT) and I shiver whenever I hear it!!! Does anybody feel like that?
What does 'powerless' mean to you? I am keen to ensure I understand this, this time, because I really don't want to go back there...
Thanks
Dave Harm said
May 25, 2009
Nothing can happen in recovery until admittance comes with being powerless. Admitting that as an alcoholic you have no power over drinking is still only part of the solution, a very strong part, but still only a part.
I say only a part because there were many times in my drunken days that I admitted to being an alcoholic, but I still drank. There were many times closing down a bar, drunk on my ass, saying to anyone who would listen I'm an alcoholic. Then by the next night trying something different, still trying to figure out a way I could drink with those social drinkers.
The next step with being able to admit to my problem, I tried different ways to control my drinking. Never during the day, only after work, none at home, never on a weekday, never on a weekend, and my personal favorite, to drink only when I was driving. I know that's quite insane but at the time it made perfect sense.
I had a 20 minute ride to work and a return 20 minute drive. So I would only be drinking for 40 minutes on any given day. But my plans didn't take into account that I would start drinking at 5 o'clock in the morning and within a weeks time, I was up to a six pack of beer, before I got to work. At the time I was a maintenance manager and no one questioned when I had to run to town for parts or supplies.
It got to the point that I was driving around town drinking more then I was at work. By the end of my day at work, I was quite drunk and I still had my 20 minute drive home. My wife couldn't figure out how I could be so drunk by 4 PM and sound asleep by 6. I did this for a couple of weeks and amazingly I didn't lose my job because of it.
This whole time I knew I was an alcoholic. I knew my drinking habits weren't normal. But I kept trying different ways to make it work. I knew, for me, the first part of step one was true with me. I was powerless over alcohol, but things didn't change until I read the rest of the step and understood it that our lives had become unmanageable.
I wasn't paying our bills, my personal hygiene wasn't a priority for me, and alcohol was a priority over food for my family. My paycheck seemed to get smaller and smaller as I was bouncing checks at different bars, grocery stores, and convenience stores just so I could continue to drink.
The first step was now complete. I had no power over alcohol and my life was unmanageable. That second part helped me accept the fact that one drink was to many. Admitting was only part of the step. For me, recovery couldn't begin until I was able to accept the fact that I'm an alcoholic. Admitting and accepting the keys to the beginning of a new life.
-- Edited by Dave Harm on Monday 25th of May 2009 10:08:12 PM
-- Edited by Dave Harm on Monday 25th of May 2009 10:10:35 PM
sabby12 said
May 26, 2009
Thankyou Dave - thats a huge help. I really appreciate that. I certainly identify with a lot of what you said. I tried pretty much everything to stop - nothing worked until I came into AA and then stopped for 9 months. Think i've probably got to stop being hard on myself for picking up again. But I just want to make sure I 'get it' this time.
Last night, I was reading the book and every time I read it, its like reading it for the first time!?!?! so much in it. But I started to think about 'admitting I was powerless' over many things in life - alcohol, drugs, other people, whats going to happen in the future, etc.etc. I can be such a control freak sometimes that i end up getting myself in such a state I need something as a release! if that makes sense!?
Anyway, its really helping me to establish a connection with a higher power... that I lost for some reason before...
Thanks and all the best.
Dave Harm said
May 26, 2009
My favorite recovery author is John Bradshaw. He has over 40 years of sobriety and I love the way he relates to addictions.
He believes that there is no such thing as being "just" an alcoholic or an addict. He says we have it, but it's never a primary disease. It's always secondary.
He believes (which I also believe) that every alcoholic/addict's primary disease is co-dependency. We're a co-dependent first, then an alcoholic or addict.
Or as he says it, "It's the disease of the disease."
Sobrietyspell said
May 29, 2009
Wow, Dave. I didn't know that. I don't know if it's secondary for me because my phenomenon of craving is pretty primary being a physiological aspect? Glad you're getting your powerlessness as related to other things in your life, Sabby. The interesting point to note is that we are only powerless in the first step. When we embrace the solution, we get a power in our life that enables us to choose. The choice not to drink. The choice not to react. The choice to keep growing. Keep coming back, lady. That slip could be all that you needed. Keep on keeping on ~ Sober 1Day@aTime :) Danielle x
lilbiT said
Jun 10, 2009
I remember thee moment I realized step one LOL (now) Some times a relapse or a one dayer. can become a time of OOOOOH -,Powerlessness!!!! So, ya learned a lesson, move it along because life is full of them. Today is another day,
PEACE, Lu Ann
vampedvixen said
Jun 15, 2009
When I was much younger, I used to keep a secret journal under my bed. I recorded the times when my mother drank, how much she drank, what was going on at home that might have caused her to drink, how long the binge lasted and what I could do better next time in order to keep her sober. I would celebrate the times when there were long breaks in between her drinking sessions and spend a lot of time trying to decipher why she slipped so much when she would drinking many nights in a row. I thought somehow this would help. It didn't.
I thought a lot of things that I did to 'help' my qualifiers would work. I yelled at my sister when she drank, I argued with my parents when they did, I told my aunt that I didn't want her staying at our house because she was old enough to find a place of her own. The real reason for trying to kick my aunt out was because I thought if she wasn't around the house so much that she wouldn't drink so much and leave us to take care of her.
There were many qualifiers in my house growing up, and the more that fell under the spell of alcohol, the more unmanageable I felt my life becoming. There were few people to turn to because I felt that they were all out of their minds. I thought I was the only sane one there, but I wasn't so sane myself to be honest.
In the early years, I thought it was my fault, but somewhere in high school I realized that it wasn't and that the only person who could stop their drinking was them. At that point, I grew less guilty and grew more bitter. That bitterness never really went away, and it has caused a lot of destruction in my relationships with my family. I grew angrier, and angrier still. No one cared about me, I was sure, because if they did they would see what they were doing to the family, what they were doing to themselves and what they were doing to me.
The guilt returned this year, when my sister died of cirrhosis, following my aunt who had died of cirrhosis five years earlier. I'd fought with my sister, pleaded with her, listened to her yell at us that it was her life and she would do what she wanted with herself and her body. I was there for her interventions, through the times she tried to stop and all the binges in between. And yet, when she died, I felt like I wasn't there for her enough. She was the hero of the family when my mother became an alcoholic and my family started to fall apart, she was the one who held it all together. My parents placed so much on her and she was dealing with her three young children, trying to keep her marriage together and drinking herself into an early grave to deal with everything. I wanted to save her the way that she'd saved me, mother her the way she'd been my substitute mother growing up. I couldn't manage her life though, because I could barely manage my own.
I was powerless to stop her from dying. I was powerless to stop my aunt from dying five years prior. I am still powerless to stop my mother from drinking, or my father. All I can do is watch and that is so hard to do when people you love are making what you feel are stupid choices, choices that you have to watch them die from eventually. Death is the final step of this disease.
I still argue with those who are still alive and are still drinking. I am the scapegoat of my family. While my sister was the one who tried to fix everything, I am the one who often points out that there is an elephant in the living room. I've tried my hardest to stop doing this in the past few years since coming to Al-anon. When there's an elephant in the living room, and it is breaking stuff and you hear crashing noises and stuff breaking.. there comes a point when you realize that everyone knows that elephant is there. Only someone who is blind would not know that the elephant is there. And if they're blind, or in denial in this case, there is nothing you can do to make them see the elephant. That is when you have to admit that you are powerless. You can not make a blind person see, you can not make someone in denial realize what they are doing to themselves.
My family might be blind, they might be lost but I decided when I came to Alanon that I didn't want to be a part of the problem. I didn't want to get swallowed up with the rest and have my life destroyed through this disease. It has already been effected immensely. I've let it control my life to the point where I look back on several years of my life and know deep in my core that this was not a normal life. I did not get to have a life. I had one filled with fighting and disease and dysfunction instead.
Growing up, I felt completely isolated because of the disease. I couldn't get my parents to drive me anywhere, because they were often too drink to pick me up if I stayed at a friend's house late. I would not let anyone come over my house either, for fear that drinking or fighting would break out. I couldn't talk to anyone in the house either because they were often too drunk to hold a conversation.
Family vacations and holidays were disrupted by the disease as well. I remember crying on vacation, while taking a walk and looking at a bunch of other happy families at the resort and wondering why I couldn't have one like that. I remembered the days before the disease hit my family and I was often nostalgic to go back to those days. I can barely remember those days now. It's very hard to remember what life was like when my family didn't all hate each other, when my parents didn't drink all the time.
I'm not sure I can put the pieces of my family or my relationships with them back together, but for now I am working on putting the pieces of myself back together. When I came to Alanon, I was so far from who I am today. Somewhere along the line, I'd lost myself and become someone cold, an orphan to the world and so frightened of speaking my mind-- unless it was to argue with someone and tell them they were an idiot. Slowly, I learned to open up and learn what my views on topics and concepts so that I can share my ideas with others. I learned to treat things gently, to love people again and trust that the world was bigger and stronger than what my family had shown me previously. I admitted that I was powerless over the people, places and things that had effected me and caused me to become so sick in the soul and heart. And I realized that my life had become unmanageable, but that it didn't have to stay that way. Through Alanon, I took the first step to recovering from this family disease and rediscovering the person I had lost so long ago-- myself.
cath said
Jul 12, 2009
I just have to say because I've been there. I had to look at and get of any reservations I was having.
DJM2 said
Jul 13, 2009
For me, I found that I was powerless before I found the 12 step program. During a brief separation from my husband (due to employment) I became acutely aware of my powerlessness. My struggle is ongoing but it is a relief to have admitted my powerlessness. I have learned to rely on my HP and to accept the path I am on. I no longer seek to change anything, only to embrace and to be thankful. Before, I had a death wish for myself. I now look at each day as a new journey. What will come today? How can I glorify my HP? I do not concern myself with pleasing my SO, only my HP.
Nothing can happen in recovery until admittance comes with being powerless. Admitting that as an alcoholic you have no power over drinking is still only part of the solution, a very strong part, but still only a part.
I say only a part because there were many times in my drunken days that I admitted to being an alcoholic, but I still drank. There were many times closing down a bar, drunk on my ass, saying to anyone who would listen I'm an alcoholic. Then by the next night trying something different, still trying to figure out a way I could drink with those social drinkers.
The next step with being able to admit to my problem, I tried different ways to control my drinking. Never during the day, only after work, none at home, never on a weekday, never on a weekend, and my personal favorite, to drink only when I was driving. I know that's quite insane but at the time it made perfect sense.
I had a 20 minute ride to work and a return 20 minute drive. So I would only be drinking for 40 minutes on any given day. But my plans didn't take into account that I would start drinking at 5 o'clock in the morning and within a weeks time, I was up to a six pack of beer, before I got to work. At the time I was a maintenance manager and no one questioned when I had to run to town for parts or supplies.
It got to the point that I was driving around town drinking more then I was at work. By the end of my day at work, I was quite drunk and I still had my 20 minute drive home. My wife couldn't figure out how I could be so drunk by 4 PM and sound asleep by 6. I did this for a couple of weeks and amazingly I didn't lose my job because of it.
This whole time I knew I was an alcoholic. I knew my drinking habits weren't normal. But I kept trying different ways to make it work. I knew, for me, the first part of step one was true with me. I was powerless over alcohol, but things didn't change until I read the rest of the step and understood it that our lives had become unmanageable.
I wasn't paying our bills, my personal hygiene wasn't a priority for me, and alcohol was a priority over food for my family. My paycheck seemed to get smaller and smaller as I was bouncing checks at different bars, grocery stores, and convenience stores just so I could continue to drink.
The first step was now complete. I had no power over alcohol and my life was unmanageable. That second part helped me accept the fact that one drink was to many. Admitting was only part of the step. For me, recovery couldn't begin until I was able to accept the fact that I'm an alcoholic. Admitting and accepting the keys to the beginning of a new life.
-- Edited by Dave Harm on Monday 25th of May 2009 10:08:12 PM
-- Edited by Dave Harm on Monday 25th of May 2009 10:10:35 PM
I thought a lot of things that I did to 'help' my qualifiers would work. I yelled at my sister when she drank, I argued with my parents when they did, I told my aunt that I didn't want her staying at our house because she was old enough to find a place of her own. The real reason for trying to kick my aunt out was because I thought if she wasn't around the house so much that she wouldn't drink so much and leave us to take care of her.
There were many qualifiers in my house growing up, and the more that fell under the spell of alcohol, the more unmanageable I felt my life becoming. There were few people to turn to because I felt that they were all out of their minds. I thought I was the only sane one there, but I wasn't so sane myself to be honest.
In the early years, I thought it was my fault, but somewhere in high school I realized that it wasn't and that the only person who could stop their drinking was them. At that point, I grew less guilty and grew more bitter. That bitterness never really went away, and it has caused a lot of destruction in my relationships with my family. I grew angrier, and angrier still. No one cared about me, I was sure, because if they did they would see what they were doing to the family, what they were doing to themselves and what they were doing to me.
The guilt returned this year, when my sister died of cirrhosis, following my aunt who had died of cirrhosis five years earlier. I'd fought with my sister, pleaded with her, listened to her yell at us that it was her life and she would do what she wanted with herself and her body. I was there for her interventions, through the times she tried to stop and all the binges in between. And yet, when she died, I felt like I wasn't there for her enough. She was the hero of the family when my mother became an alcoholic and my family started to fall apart, she was the one who held it all together. My parents placed so much on her and she was dealing with her three young children, trying to keep her marriage together and drinking herself into an early grave to deal with everything. I wanted to save her the way that she'd saved me, mother her the way she'd been my substitute mother growing up. I couldn't manage her life though, because I could barely manage my own.
I was powerless to stop her from dying. I was powerless to stop my aunt from dying five years prior. I am still powerless to stop my mother from drinking, or my father. All I can do is watch and that is so hard to do when people you love are making what you feel are stupid choices, choices that you have to watch them die from eventually. Death is the final step of this disease.
I still argue with those who are still alive and are still drinking. I am the scapegoat of my family. While my sister was the one who tried to fix everything, I am the one who often points out that there is an elephant in the living room. I've tried my hardest to stop doing this in the past few years since coming to Al-anon. When there's an elephant in the living room, and it is breaking stuff and you hear crashing noises and stuff breaking.. there comes a point when you realize that everyone knows that elephant is there. Only someone who is blind would not know that the elephant is there. And if they're blind, or in denial in this case, there is nothing you can do to make them see the elephant. That is when you have to admit that you are powerless. You can not make a blind person see, you can not make someone in denial realize what they are doing to themselves.
My family might be blind, they might be lost but I decided when I came to Alanon that I didn't want to be a part of the problem. I didn't want to get swallowed up with the rest and have my life destroyed through this disease. It has already been effected immensely. I've let it control my life to the point where I look back on several years of my life and know deep in my core that this was not a normal life. I did not get to have a life. I had one filled with fighting and disease and dysfunction instead.
Growing up, I felt completely isolated because of the disease. I couldn't get my parents to drive me anywhere, because they were often too drink to pick me up if I stayed at a friend's house late. I would not let anyone come over my house either, for fear that drinking or fighting would break out. I couldn't talk to anyone in the house either because they were often too drunk to hold a conversation.
Family vacations and holidays were disrupted by the disease as well. I remember crying on vacation, while taking a walk and looking at a bunch of other happy families at the resort and wondering why I couldn't have one like that. I remembered the days before the disease hit my family and I was often nostalgic to go back to those days. I can barely remember those days now. It's very hard to remember what life was like when my family didn't all hate each other, when my parents didn't drink all the time.
I'm not sure I can put the pieces of my family or my relationships with them back together, but for now I am working on putting the pieces of myself back together. When I came to Alanon, I was so far from who I am today. Somewhere along the line, I'd lost myself and become someone cold, an orphan to the world and so frightened of speaking my mind-- unless it was to argue with someone and tell them they were an idiot. Slowly, I learned to open up and learn what my views on topics and concepts so that I can share my ideas with others. I learned to treat things gently, to love people again and trust that the world was bigger and stronger than what my family had shown me previously. I admitted that I was powerless over the people, places and things that had effected me and caused me to become so sick in the soul and heart. And I realized that my life had become unmanageable, but that it didn't have to stay that way. Through Alanon, I took the first step to recovering from this family disease and rediscovering the person I had lost so long ago-- myself.
My struggle is ongoing but it is a relief to have admitted my powerlessness. I have learned to rely on my HP and to accept the path I am on. I no longer seek to change anything, only to embrace and to be thankful.
Before, I had a death wish for myself. I now look at each day as a new journey. What will come today? How can I glorify my HP? I do not concern myself with pleasing my SO, only my HP.