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Step 6 questions
were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of Character
ODAT PAGE 172
God make me entirely READY FOR the removal of my FAULTS THAT I may receive light on my problems and there true causes.
My Share
This step is a natural after Step 4 and 5. I admit my shortcoming, see how they have hurt me and now in this step of the process I take THE TIME to become ready TO HAVE my negative attitudes removed and replaced with positive actions.
There is no magic formula for THIS I must continue to work the program, attend meetings, read my ODAT, ATTEMPT to stop myself from judging, criticizing, blaming others. This is how I made myself entirely ready to have HP lift my shortcoming. Some of my defects I really enjoyed like gossiping, sarcasm, comparing. It is interesting as I was still enjoying these defects, my HP showed them to me in a different light, in action in my life, and I saw how destructive they were to ME and to others. It was then I was very ready to surrender them
STEP 6 QUESTIONS
What things are you willing to let go of?
Our tight grasp on people
Controlling Manipulation Our need to control and manipulate
Desperation Our fears Old feelings that may be clogging us up Negative, limiting beliefs Worry The need to blame our pain on others Waiting to be happy Low self-esteem Our self-neglect, and the belief that we aren't responsible for ourselves and cannot take care of ourselves Our desire to have others take care of, or be responsible for, us
_ List each defect, and give a brief definition of it.
_ In what ways do I act on this defect?
_ When I act on this defect, what effect does it have on me and others?
_ What feelings do I associate with this defect? Am I trying to suppress certain feelings by acting on certain defects?
Am I willing to have all my defects of character removed at this time? If not, why not?
_ What have I done to show my willingness today?
Milkwood said
Nov 30, 2013
Betty, you are marvellous - I suspect this is the step that I need, and I did not really realise how to use it until I read this post. Thank you.
I'm going to work through your list and see what it brings up Prepare for a rambling path!
Our tight grasp on people - for me this was at its strongest when AH had his affair. I hung on for dear life even though I could see at the time that I felt calm when I approached the problem from the viewpoint of 'let him go'. Instead I tried to show him I loved him, I tried to be better than the other woman and in general did everything I could to be noticed in a positive way. I thought that the rewards would be worth it. Since I was not what he wanted at the time all of this effort was at best irritating to him and with hindsight humiliating for me. The feelings that I associate with that behaviour are summed by by not feeling good enough. I felt ugly, angry, frustrated, confused and hurt. I am still angry and confused. As to my feelings about the other woman, fury! I still think about her every day. I want AH to explain himself, to tell me what he really thinks of me etc and in short, I am still putting the onus onto him to make me feel better, darn it! I am scared that taking responsibility for my feelings about this episode will be the end my marriage and that will mean failure for me. However when I look back at my life and at times when I was wronged I stood up for myself, said my piece and walked away. I still feel good about those moments. So why didn't I do this with AH? On a more general level I want people around me to be happy and comfortable so I'll over do the catering, give the comfy chair to others and generally wear myself out trying so hard. From a work point of view I managing and organise events and so I was paid to keep a grip! As my workload increased I certainly became aware of my knuckles turning white as I tried to hold onto all the reigns. I remember feeling as though I wanted someone to contradict me, to question what I was saying because I knew that I couldn't always be right. I would have liked to have been able to discuss things a bit more. I guess I wanted to share some of the load but I was uncomfortable asking for help.
Controlling - In general see above! I guess I would like to control things a bit more but in many ways I'm influenced by being a child of the sixties - I embraced the freedom of flower power at an early age and as a result I've actually gone through my life so far being quite fluid and flexible. I managed to stay on my side of the street fairly well with the above mentioned affair - i.e. I saw it as AH's responsibility to deal with getting rid of his mistress despite having huge temptation to tell her where to go. In other words I would like to control, but in general I don't, but I have not managed to let go yet.
Manipulation - Not too bad on this. I have done it unconsciously in the past by engineering scenarios so that I can get my own way but these days I am learning to listen to myself a bit more and to say 'this is what I would like' and to be a bit more upfront about it.
Our need to control and manipulate - for me this means having a sense of control over my life and doing what I can to meet my needs. If I start to do this to other people then I feel guilty and uncomfortable but in general it is about contributing to my own destiny.
I'm going to come back to this a bit later - but at least it is a start. Thank you.
hotrod said
Nov 30, 2013
Dear Milkwood
Thank you for honestly sharing your thoughtss and inner feelings. That is how we heal.
It really is a process and each step takes us closer to the Goal.
I appreeciate sharing the journey with you. It is a true gift
grateful2be said
Nov 30, 2013
When I focus on others, I lose sight of myself. It is so easy to slip right back into this childhood habit that was born out of the need to survive. I practice all the listed defects when I am not focused on me and what I want and need to make my life serene and happy. Being aware of how quickly I can slip back into survival mode rather than thriving mode helps me accept this truth about me and take the necessary actions to keep the focus on me and not on what is outside of me when I notice I am feeling out of sorts or willfull in some way.
hotrod said
Dec 1, 2013
Dear grateful2be
Thank you for your honest share. It held much clarity, awareness and growth
I Appreciate your sharing the journey her with me at MIP.
ifnotforgrace said
Dec 1, 2013
How do I become willing? Prayer has not yet made a change
hotrod said
Dec 1, 2013
Hi
Willingness comes as we continue practicing the program Attend meetings, use the slogans, read the literture and pray Trust the process.
Keep showing up for yourself.
Milkwood said
Dec 8, 2013
Desperation
Our fears
Old feelings that may be clogging us up
Negative, limiting beliefs
Worry
The need to blame our pain on others
Waiting to be happy
Low self-esteem
Our self-neglect, and the belief that we aren't responsible for ourselves and cannot take care of ourselves
Our desire to have others take care of, or be responsible for, us
_ List each defect, and give a brief definition of it.
_ In what ways do I act on this defect?
_ When I act on this defect, what effect does it have on me and others?
_ What feelings do I associate with this defect? Am I trying to suppress certain feelings by acting on certain defects?
Am I willing to have all my defects of character removed at this time? If not, why not?
_ What have I done to show my willingness today?
OK, I'm back to face those other feelings.
Worry - this is spending to much time thinking about things that I can not control, that may not happen and are probably not my responsibility anyway. I can waste so much time on this. And so many times I deny that I do it.
Blaming others - I do this but it is a bit like sitting on a see-saw - I blame them and then I blame myself. I end up looking like that chap with a long plank trying to get through a narrow door - knocked to the left and then to the right!! I think that I'm trying to deny the randomness that sometimes S*** happens. If it is my fault, or their fault, then it is controllable in the future??
Low self esteem - where does that come from? I have practically no reason for it and yet it is a big part of my life these days. So many of these feelings lead me to lethargy and lack of effort.
Self neglect - this is a relatively new one for me - but I can honestly say that I have lived my life expecting a prince on a white charger to rescue me and I can also honestly say thank you to AH for showing me, over and over, this is not the case. When I have learnt a little more about self care and when I value myself enough to make the effort for myself (as opposed to making it for everyone else) then I know that this lesson will serve me well.
And there I go - waiting to be happy!!!! That worked! Can't believe that was the next item that I saw from your list Hotrod
Tomorrow is another day - and I will decide before I go to sleep today what step I'm going to take to make an effort.
Yes, yes, yes. I would love to loose these negative feelings.
hotrod said
Dec 8, 2013
Good Work Milkwood
It really is a process . I found that once I began HP held me to it and it unfolded almost without effort
Thanks for your share
ifnotforgrace said
Dec 26, 2013
Lethargy and lack of effort seem to describe what I feel whenever I approach Step 6. Perhaps one of my defects is just plain laziness. Some days are better than others, but it seems to be I have been engaging in complacency. I have been in Al-Anon for a long time. I have made tremendous progress from whence I first entered the rooms, but I know I still have some defects I have clung to. When I did my inventory I have noted that these seem to be a defense mechanism - perhaps a false sense of feeling safe. While I have readily identified these defects I seem totally unmoved to do anything to correct them. That's just the gut level honest feeling for now. I do trust the process and have made a new list (I have lists of lists) and have added laziness to my Step 5 and am praying that I be granted the motivation to tackle these last few remaining items that have been on my list along with the laziness for waaaaay to long.
hotrod said
Dec 26, 2013
ifnotforgrace
I too had many defects that I used to "protect" myself. Trust HP to replace these defects wiha constructive means of communicating so that you will not need the defects.
Keep on keeping on and keep asking HP to lift the defects It does work.
ifnotforgrace said
Feb 28, 2014
"Am I willing to have all my defects of character removed at this time? If not, why not?"
The answer to part A is "No" and part B is "I don't know" and I do not seem to know how to find out "why".. I have prayed and then I find myself holding on to the (at least a couple) same Resentments I have had since my first Step 4. I have forgiven people, made amends to people I would never have thought I would but I have 3 people still left...and of course as long as I don't come into contact with them it presents little issues of conflit..(which 1 is dead..and one I don't even know where she is..Still in the drug/alcohol world last account I had) and the other...is my Dad who is 87 and now has Alzheimer's and I am having to become his primary caregiver..geez Houston now I have a problem....I've got to let go of the resentments from years back, but instead..the old resentments are just spreading into new ones..I find the resentments have built up like tartar on my teeth and I am about to need a root canal to get rid of this toxic crap.
I do not know how to open my heart, forgive and move on..why would I want to continue a grudge for the wounds of childhood?
hotrod said
Mar 23, 2014
Pray about it daily and ask HP to help lift the pain and resentment It worked for me
Learn How The Twelve Steps Work.
Step 6 questions
were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of Character
ODAT PAGE 172
God make me entirely READY FOR the removal of my FAULTS THAT I may receive light on my problems and there true causes.
My Share
This step is a natural after Step 4 and 5. I admit my shortcoming, see how they have hurt me and now in this step of the process I take THE TIME to become ready TO HAVE my negative attitudes removed and replaced with positive actions.
There is no magic formula for THIS I must continue to work the program, attend meetings, read my ODAT, ATTEMPT to stop myself from judging, criticizing, blaming others. This is how I made myself entirely ready to have HP lift my shortcoming. Some of my defects I really enjoyed like gossiping, sarcasm, comparing. It is interesting as I was still enjoying these defects, my HP showed them to me in a different light, in action in my life, and I saw how destructive they were to ME and to others. It was then I was very ready to surrender them
STEP 6 QUESTIONS
What things are you willing to let go of?
Our tight grasp on people
Controlling
Manipulation
Our need to control and manipulate
Desperation
Our fears
Old feelings that may be clogging us up
Negative, limiting beliefs
Worry
The need to blame our pain on others
Waiting to be happy
Low self-esteem
Our self-neglect, and the belief that we aren't responsible for ourselves and cannot take care of ourselves
Our desire to have others take care of, or be responsible for, us
_ List each defect, and give a brief definition of it.
_ In what ways do I act on this defect?
_ When I act on this defect, what effect does it have on me and others?
_ What feelings do I associate with this defect? Am I trying to suppress certain feelings by acting on certain defects?
Am I willing to have all my defects of character removed at this time? If not, why not?
_ What have I done to show my willingness today?
I'm going to work through your list and see what it brings up Prepare for a rambling path!
Our tight grasp on people - for me this was at its strongest when AH had his affair. I hung on for dear life even though I could see at the time that I felt calm when I approached the problem from the viewpoint of 'let him go'. Instead I tried to show him I loved him, I tried to be better than the other woman and in general did everything I could to be noticed in a positive way. I thought that the rewards would be worth it. Since I was not what he wanted at the time all of this effort was at best irritating to him and with hindsight humiliating for me. The feelings that I associate with that behaviour are summed by by not feeling good enough. I felt ugly, angry, frustrated, confused and hurt. I am still angry and confused. As to my feelings about the other woman, fury! I still think about her every day. I want AH to explain himself, to tell me what he really thinks of me etc and in short, I am still putting the onus onto him to make me feel better, darn it! I am scared that taking responsibility for my feelings about this episode will be the end my marriage and that will mean failure for me. However when I look back at my life and at times when I was wronged I stood up for myself, said my piece and walked away. I still feel good about those moments. So why didn't I do this with AH? On a more general level I want people around me to be happy and comfortable so I'll over do the catering, give the comfy chair to others and generally wear myself out trying so hard. From a work point of view I managing and organise events and so I was paid to keep a grip! As my workload increased I certainly became aware of my knuckles turning white as I tried to hold onto all the reigns. I remember feeling as though I wanted someone to contradict me, to question what I was saying because I knew that I couldn't always be right. I would have liked to have been able to discuss things a bit more. I guess I wanted to share some of the load but I was uncomfortable asking for help.
Controlling - In general see above! I guess I would like to control things a bit more but in many ways I'm influenced by being a child of the sixties - I embraced the freedom of flower power at an early age and as a result I've actually gone through my life so far being quite fluid and flexible. I managed to stay on my side of the street fairly well with the above mentioned affair - i.e. I saw it as AH's responsibility to deal with getting rid of his mistress despite having huge temptation to tell her where to go. In other words I would like to control, but in general I don't, but I have not managed to let go yet.
Manipulation - Not too bad on this. I have done it unconsciously in the past by engineering scenarios so that I can get my own way but these days I am learning to listen to myself a bit more and to say 'this is what I would like' and to be a bit more upfront about it.
Our need to control and manipulate - for me this means having a sense of control over my life and doing what I can to meet my needs. If I start to do this to other people then I feel guilty and uncomfortable but in general it is about contributing to my own destiny.
I'm going to come back to this a bit later - but at least it is a start. Thank you.
Dear Milkwood
Thank you for honestly sharing your thoughtss and inner feelings. That is how we heal.
It really is a process and each step takes us closer to the Goal.
I appreeciate sharing the journey with you. It is a true gift
Dear grateful2be
Thank you for your honest share. It held much clarity, awareness and growth
I Appreciate your sharing the journey her with me at MIP.
How do I become willing? Prayer has not yet made a change
Hi
Willingness comes as we continue practicing the program Attend meetings, use the slogans, read the literture and pray Trust the process.
Keep showing up for yourself.
Our fears
Old feelings that may be clogging us up
Negative, limiting beliefs
Worry
The need to blame our pain on others
Waiting to be happy
Low self-esteem
Our self-neglect, and the belief that we aren't responsible for ourselves and cannot take care of ourselves
Our desire to have others take care of, or be responsible for, us
_ List each defect, and give a brief definition of it.
_ In what ways do I act on this defect?
_ When I act on this defect, what effect does it have on me and others?
_ What feelings do I associate with this defect? Am I trying to suppress certain feelings by acting on certain defects?
Am I willing to have all my defects of character removed at this time? If not, why not?
_ What have I done to show my willingness today?
OK, I'm back to face those other feelings.
Worry - this is spending to much time thinking about things that I can not control, that may not happen and are probably not my responsibility anyway. I can waste so much time on this. And so many times I deny that I do it.
Blaming others - I do this but it is a bit like sitting on a see-saw - I blame them and then I blame myself. I end up looking like that chap with a long plank trying to get through a narrow door - knocked to the left and then to the right!! I think that I'm trying to deny the randomness that sometimes S*** happens. If it is my fault, or their fault, then it is controllable in the future??
Low self esteem - where does that come from? I have practically no reason for it and yet it is a big part of my life these days. So many of these feelings lead me to lethargy and lack of effort.
Self neglect - this is a relatively new one for me - but I can honestly say that I have lived my life expecting a prince on a white charger to rescue me and I can also honestly say thank you to AH for showing me, over and over, this is not the case. When I have learnt a little more about self care and when I value myself enough to make the effort for myself (as opposed to making it for everyone else) then I know that this lesson will serve me well.
And there I go - waiting to be happy!!!! That worked! Can't believe that was the next item that I saw from your list Hotrod
Tomorrow is another day - and I will decide before I go to sleep today what step I'm going to take to make an effort.
Yes, yes, yes. I would love to loose these negative feelings.
Good Work Milkwood
It really is a process . I found that once I began HP held me to it and it unfolded almost without effort
Thanks for your share
ifnotforgrace
I too had many defects that I used to "protect" myself. Trust HP to replace these defects wiha constructive means of communicating so that you will not need the defects.
Keep on keeping on and keep asking HP to lift the defects It does work.
The answer to part A is "No" and part B is "I don't know" and I do not seem to know how to find out "why".. I have prayed and then I find myself holding on to the (at least a couple) same Resentments I have had since my first Step 4. I have forgiven people, made amends to people I would never have thought I would but I have 3 people still left...and of course as long as I don't come into contact with them it presents little issues of conflit..(which 1 is dead..and one I don't even know where she is..Still in the drug/alcohol world last account I had) and the other...is my Dad who is 87 and now has Alzheimer's and I am having to become his primary caregiver..geez Houston now I have a problem....I've got to let go of the resentments from years back, but instead..the old resentments are just spreading into new ones..I find the resentments have built up like tartar on my teeth and I am about to need a root canal to get rid of this toxic crap.
I do not know how to open my heart, forgive and move on..why would I want to continue a grudge for the wounds of childhood?